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Destroying vs. Fullfilling
Published on April 21, 2004 By Shulamite In Religion
Jesus did not come to destroy the law but to fulfill it. But how can that be, you ask. Good question.

Obviously, Christians don't obey all of Levitical law. See my response to a question on my last blog if you'd like more info. Why don't we? You see, Peter had a vision from God explaining that all things God made are now clean. God placed a great white sheet down on the ground for peter with lots of unclean foods on it. He told Peter, "Take and eat." Peter said, "but Lord, I can't. I've kept the law since birth." God said, "What I have cleaned do not call unclean." He did this three times (Peter's number for understanding something was three, it seems) and Peter understood what Paul was saying about Gentiles. Gentiles, commonly regarded as unclean, are clean if they're cleaned by God. (Clean: faith in Christ as Messiah = forgiveness.) Paul said don't do anything that is lawful if it causes someone else to stumble. That was the only law he said mattered. In other words, if something you do causes someone else to committ sin, even if there's nothing wrong with what you did, it was the wrong thing to do. You are your brother's keeper.

My brother argued the following point with a friend who observes the Jewish diet but is a Christian: The vision was about gentiles not about food. Therefore we are still under the law. Not so, said my brother. God never uses an analogy that isn't true to reveal a truth about something that is true. See what I mean? I'm not going to say, "Nato is like a family. They aren't related." I'm not going to say something about the family that isn't true to prove something about Nato. It's just preposterous. Therefore, because God is very logical indeed, all foods are now clean. We no longer have to live under the law. Paul and Peter even argued about it. You can't make Gentiles keep a law that even Jews couldn't keep. It's too hard. Why would God give people such hard rules? Primarily for their own protection. (see previously mentioned blog's responses: "Crusading Christians.") But why would he then say he didn't destroy it but he fulfilled it?

You see, the law is like a mirror. It show us we're dirty. Without laws against adultery, lying, stealing, coveting, dishonoring, and so forth, we never would know what displeases God and we'd not know we're dirty. The law is that mirror that we look into and go, "Geez, I'm a mess. Look at me!" God had a system that worked a little like hand sanitizer. Good for a jam, but you'd better just try not to get dirty. Jesus, the Messiah, came as the sink that works with the mirror. He allows us to get clean. I mean really clean. We can wash off all that dirt we see staring right back at us. And once we do, we're clean indeed.

That's what He meant by fulfilling the law and not destroying it. He made it complete. Not only do we know we're dirty, we can get clean too. And Paul says whatever causes someone else to do something wrong is wrong. Jesus said we could rest all commandments on these two: "'Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, with all your mind, and with all your strength.' This is the first commandment. And the second, like it, is this: 'You shall love your neighbor as yourself.' There is no other commandment greater than these." This is why Christians no longer observe Levitical law.


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on Apr 22, 2004
IG -- Okay -- you're so very right about some Christians misusing Leviticus to injure people. But are they really Christians? Some might be. But they have hardened their hearts to God's chastisement and ignore his discipline. They're not being led by the Spirit to do so, in otherwords. All I have to say to that analysis is "amen."

If it's just a thought and you dismiss but don't dwell, I don't think it's a sin. It's when we recognize the thought as wrong and yet consciously choose the thought as something to dwell upon. Today, a girl in one of my classes was wearing a beautiful pink skirt. a boy walked in front of her, complimented her on her skirt, and then stuck his water bottle up the front of it just a bit to "tease her" he said. I said, "Name! What are you doing!?" "I was just playing with her! Well, you weren't supposed to see that." He thought something, dwelled on it, and acted. He later explained, only digging himself deeper with me, "That's the only reason guys like skirts! It's the thought of easy access!" Granted, this is a communication class of seniors, but sometimes it gets a little too racy. Wow.

Predestination. Yeah, I guess I was. Acts 13:2 says, "As they ministered to the Lord and fasted, the Holy Spirit said, 'Separate me Barnabas and Saul for the work whereunto I have called them.'" Also, Jeremiah 29:11-14 says, "'For I know the thoughts that I think toward you', says the Lord, 'thoughts of peace and not of evil, to give you an expected end. Then you shall call upon me and you shall pray to me and i will hear you. And you shall seek me and find me when you search for me with all your heart. I will be found by you.'" I think God has lots planned out. We still have free will -- he doesn't take that away! But I feel "predestination" is an in-house debate.
on Apr 22, 2004
It has always been a question among Christians, just how much is planned by God and is unalterable, how much is happenstance that can be altered by a prayer and how much falls under the title "stuff happens".

I have always been given comfort in the fact that God does not have every detail planned, that prayer, in the darkest hour could or could not work. That when the "bad" stuff happens it is because it just happens, not because of gome Great Plan that I haven't any say in. For me, for prayer to work, the Plan has to be alterable or flexible to some degree, else events would happen wether we prayed for them or not.

I have always liked the beginning of "It's a Wonderful Life". All those prayers going up to heaven asking for aid for George. God responding to the prayer w/ Clarence. Maybe that is what a prayer is, drawing God's attention to a perceived problem.

Just my thoughts.

IG
on Apr 23, 2004
While the guidance in Leviticus was presented as law to these people, they don’t fall under the heading of the 10 commandments. Many of the instructions in Leviticus were intended to maintain the health of an enormous group of people. The fact is the diet Moses commanded is the best diet for avoiding health problems.
Peters dream was meant to show Peter that the message should be shared with all men, even us Gentiles. The law God came to fulfill is that the wages of sin is death, and by His death, we are now entitled to eternal life. He also fulfilled the promise thereby releasing us from the ceremonial practice of presenting a sacrifice.
We should heed the warnings of Leviticus so that we can enjoy healthier lives and suffer less health problems, particularly in old age. The Ten Commandments on the other hand are laws. Jesus obeyed them and taught others to obey them. Jesus said “If you love Me, keep My commandments.”
on Apr 23, 2004
Thanks for dittoing me, Carris...

IG -- I love that too. You rock, brother.
on Apr 23, 2004
Shulamite I have a question and since you seemed to be well-versed in the Bible i thought I would ask. I know drugs like marijuana and cocaine are sins but where in the Bible does it say it. This is to settle an argument and I would greatly appreciate if you could help me out...
on Apr 24, 2004
Although some of what you say in this article is true, other parts are incorrect. Did you know that the verse "love your neighbor as yourself" comes from Leviticus. Although Jesus has fulfilled the sacrificial system by becoming the ultimate sacrifice, many of the laws in the Pentateuch are the basis of the laws of Europe and the United States. The idea of first degree murder comes from the Old Testament. The relationship between Christianity and the Old Testament is complicated.
on Apr 24, 2004
Psychx -- The body is a temple. Temples are where we worship God and the temple of God is to be kept pure and holy. The idea was well-known among Jews of the day. I think we're responsible for our actions and drugs that take away our responsibility (or ability to be responsible) are not in line with purity in the temple or honoring God. See 1 Corinthians 3:16,17? "Don't you know you are the temple of God and that the Holy Spirit of God dwells in you? If any man defiles the temple of God, God shall destroy him. For the temple of God is holy, which temple you are." Drugs of that nature, obviously, destroy people. It's an impurity and it destroys. Notice 9:13. "Don't you know that they who minister about holy things live of the things of the temple? And they who wait at the altar are partakers with the altar?" It's a call to purity too.

Now see 2 Cor. 6:16. "And what agreement hath the temple of God with idols? For you are the temple of the living God, as God has said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people." That last part is from Jeremiah 31 -- something Jews would recognize but not Gentiles necessarily. See, the Cornithians were of the idea that they could live however they wanted after salvation. Paul is telling them God says this is not so. Corinthians were known for their "impurity" to say it politely.

For a forward glance, see Revelation 7:15. "Therefore they are before the throne of God and serve Him day and night in His temple: and He that sits on the throne shall dwell among them." Drugs keep us from serving Him; we're to serve Him all our days.

I hope that answers your question, Psychx! I recommend praying before you seek His wisdom. He gives wisdom to all freely and without reproach who ask it of Him. That's what the Holy Spirit's for!
on Apr 24, 2004
I have to agree with Sherye. I think that it's not as simple as you make it out to be....
on Apr 24, 2004
Sherye! Good to hear from you. Glad you're weighing in. You state: "Although Jesus has fulfilled the sacrificial system by becoming the ultimate sacrifice, many of the laws in the Pentateuch are the basis of the laws of Europe and the United States." Great point. And you're completely correct. I suppose when I said "we" I should have been clearer and said, "Christians." Yet Leviticus does stay with us culturally, as you point out. We're not exactly thrilled with the thought of eating snakes or slugs or some other forbidden animals for the most part. I think our governments, because they're democracies in the west for the most part, are reflections of our culture.

"Did you know that the verse "love your neighbor as yourself" comes from Leviticus." I knew it was not in the Ten Commandments in Exodus... I quoted Jesus. He said, "The first two commandments." I don't have a copy of a Greek/Latin/Hebrew Bible before me, but my suspicion is that the word "first" Jesus used refers to placement; Like "first place" or "second place" not "Commandment number one." He puts value on them with his "first two commandments" in that statement.

"The relationship between Christianity and the Old Testament is complicated." I agree. But I do believe the OT is prophetic for the Messiah, fulfilled in Jesus. Ever notice how Jesus quotes old testament scripture, but leaves off a bit of what comes next? He does that when he talks to the pharisees and saducees who know what comes next because they've got scripture down... that's a very powerful technique. By not saying it, it weighs heavier on them. "But you left out.... oh."

What else did I get wrong?
on Apr 24, 2004
Thanks for your attitude. Sorry about mine. I think that you need to go through the book of Leviticus verse by verse. Some are no longer culturally relevent, others are. As far as first two commandments, he is speaking in order of importance since the two commandments aren't together. They are a summary that either Jesus brought up or other rabbis brought up. You are correct about Jesus' cleverness. When he says about loving enemies. Hate your enemy is not in the scripture, but is added on by people. You also have to realize though with Jesus' quotations that he is quoting from the Septuigent instead of the Hebrew Bible and so that is why they differ. The Septuigent was the Greek translation that was the Bible for most 1st century Christians.
on Apr 24, 2004
There is something that you will find exciting. Read I Peter and then look up the references to being holy. They come from Leviticus from the part that has the kosher laws. Then read the story of Cornelius. The correlations is interesting.
on Apr 24, 2004
Attitude? Sherye, I didn't notice an attitude. But cool.

Dharma: "I think that it's not as simple as you make it out to be...." If it were simple I'd not need to write about it! So I agree on simplicity... God's not simple. And another thing that's interesting and I think Sherye will verify: Believers understand scripture whereas non-believers do not. It has to do with the in-dwelling of the Holy Spirit. You can totally disagree with me... I love a good argument when everyone's cool with it... but it's scriptural and I've found it true in my expereinces... those are the only ones I can speak of. Dharma, also in my experience, you're a very calm, well-spoken person to dissent with. I enjoy your opinions.

Sherye... thanks for the study subject tonight! And the inspiration! I'm reading Jeremiah right now and I'll go to the NT after that. Probably II Corinthians and then hit Leviticus for the nice fit. I go back and forth from OT to NT. Sherye, what do you think about "The Message" Bible?
on Apr 25, 2004
Thanks Shulamite...much appreciated
on Apr 25, 2004
No problem Psychx. I've been praying for wisdom for almost ten years now. He really does give it freely. God bless and keep you!
on Jul 29, 2004
true.

The diestary laws, though, are still sound advice for healthy living, legalism aside.

(but my bacon converted...it no longer comes from swine flesh so it doesn't count...lol).
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